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[BOUNTY] Anonymous funding for Developers #1

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ghost opened this issue Dec 14, 2013 · 18 comments
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[BOUNTY] Anonymous funding for Developers #1

ghost opened this issue Dec 14, 2013 · 18 comments

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@ghost
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ghost commented Dec 14, 2013

Hello,
New users need 10 posts to post in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46957078

Would be awesome if you could pledge somewhere else (e.g. bitcoinstarter.com, ...)

My part:
EUR 50 in BTC as soon as their is a working (beta) app that can detect Silent SMS

Thanks!

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SecUpwN commented Dec 15, 2013

Sounds good to me. How about www.pledgie.com?
Other ideas of services which support more ways to donate?

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ghost commented Dec 15, 2013

I haven't found any croudfunding service which accepts bitcoins AND PayPal (CreditCard)
Perhaps you should start making a public visible list of all the Users, who would donate money for this project.

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ghost commented Dec 27, 2013

This project sounds really awesome and it is very sad that nobody cares about it :/

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SecUpwN commented Dec 29, 2013

I forwarded this issue into the official development thread, hopefully some more people will contribute to solve this trivial question. Thanks for bringing it up, feel free to spread the word! But always remember: Patience is the key to success. ;-)

@WebDesZ, there are new recommendations in our thread. What is your opinion to those?

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dalb8 commented Apr 6, 2014

I see Antox, Tox for Android, is using Tip 4 commit. It's a nice idea, like Flattr. Flattr isn't hugely popular among Android app users and I've been watching it closely.

Donations would be more plausible if you were in a co-op, like a ROM. There is currently a kickstarter for 'Guardian' ROM.

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E3V3A commented Apr 6, 2014

Just FYI, Flatter is a rip-off, which is why it's not popular by smart developers. Not recommended.

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SecUpwN commented Apr 6, 2014

@E3V3A, thanks for telling me. I just noticed the pending Flattr microdonation and was surprised to find a "donation" there - is this one of their fake tricks to lure developers into registering with their service?

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E3V3A commented Apr 6, 2014

Who knows. Don't waste your time on it! They can donate with paypal/bitcoin if they really want.

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SecUpwN commented Apr 6, 2014

@E3V3A, the whole idea of donating to an Open Source is difficult. As much as I would like to reward developers, the main things I am struggling with are these:

  1. Collection of money must be anonymous. No attack vector for the bad guys.
  2. Controlling the finances: The person dividing the funds shall be trustworthy. Difficult.
  3. How to divide the funds in a fair and correct way? Can BitHub serve as "good" example?

Question is: Do you even support the idea by itself, or shall we rather forget about it? No hurries..

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https://freedomsponsors.org supports paypal and bitcoins. Also see https://gittip.com

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SecUpwN commented Apr 8, 2014

@iElectric, thanks for suggesting. But how to divide the funds in a fair and correct way?

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Gittip splits between contributors. See https://www.gittip.com/Gittip/members/

For freedomsponsors, not really sure if it supports splitting.

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SecUpwN commented Apr 11, 2014

@iElectric, thanks for your suggestions. Unfortunately Gittip is charging a higher fee if being outside the US and also only supports long-term funding through e.g. connecting a credit card to the account. We'd like to have a platform that features these things:

  • Anonymous, easy to understand and use funding
  • Multiple ways to spend money (BitCoin, PayPal, Bank Account, PaySafeCard..)
  • Fair division of collected money (this is one of the key points - is it even possible?)
  • Service should be used widely by a large number of developers

Before adopting the idea of using such a crowdfunding service like FreedomSponsors, I'd like to know if @E3V3A and @xLaMbChOpSx even support the idea of getting paid for their work. As already said, the hardest part for me would be to "devide" the money as I feel like even small contributions like brainstorming, suggestions or code snippets are already worth money.

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E3V3A commented Apr 11, 2014

I completely support the idea of getting funded, but I'm afraid at this stage is more of a distraction than any real funds. Perhaps if we can get this thing to fly, or at least not to crash, we could ask for some more serious funding from EU or other organization as an NPO.

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@E3V3A Install the release I just posted is should address all the FC's you experienced.

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E3V3A commented Apr 11, 2014

@xLaMbChOpSx Just did. Now it seem to work! Reported enhancement, will post (internal list of dev notes) as PM. BTW. Did you read my PM on XDA?

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SecUpwN commented Jun 2, 2014

Just a short update that I discovered two methods for fully anonymous funding which look promising:

I'll keep watching progress on these, tell me what you think @E3V3A and @xLaMbChOpSx!
EDIT: Since noone has been responing, I just did it - we are now accepting ANONYMOUS DONATIONS!

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SecUpwN commented May 15, 2015

Just an update for @WebDesZ, @dalb8 and @domenkozar: We're now using Bountysource, which supports proper splitting. Press this button to donate Bountysource and see this FAQ!

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